Ellie's parents, Louis and Kathy Hoffman, join us for a double episode discussion of Star Trek (3:50) and The West Wing (27:34)! We unpack the similarities between 1969 and 2020, discuss why Kathy wishes America could be like The West Wing, and learn about Ellie's love of "random dialogue."
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(Opening Music © 1967 Paramount Pictures)
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